2011-11-15 (China Military News cited from xinhuanet.com and by Li Hongmei) -- The forthcoming 19th ASEAN summit to be held in Bali, Indonesia seems more noteworthy than before, as it will see the formal entry of the United States and Russia into the East Asia summit grouping.
Also, leaders of ASEAN countries, its dialogue partners Australia, China, India, Japan, New Zealand, Republic of Korea and United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon will be converging at the 19th ASEAN Summit and related Summits from Nov. 17 to 19.
In addition, “Initiatives” aimed at settling the South China Sea issue will be offered by the Philippine President Aquino III, as released by its Foreign Affairs Undersecretary.
Actually, it is no key highlight to the world, in that the Philippines, even at the 18th ASEAN Summit, proposed to establish a Zone of Peace, Freedom, Friendship, and Cooperation (ZoPFF/C) that seeks to segregate the disputed South China Sea islands from the undisputed parts to put an end to “military intrusions” in the region.
It is also no surprise at all why the Philippine will reignite the so-called South China Sea proposal in the name of regional tranquility, since the “Pacific President” Barack Obama would show up at the upcoming Bali Summit, he would much like to see any gesture to echo Washington’s “Return to Asia” strategy.
To his delight, his Asian allies, including the Philippines, could stir up a “group brawl” fighting China, which has seen a visible rise in terms of strength and influence in a region that Washington reaches out to incorporate into “its interests”.
In the meantime, ASEAN will also celebrate the 20th anniversary of its ties with China during the 19th Summit of ASEAN's leaders and their discussions with dialogue partners. It is virtually an old game ASEAN countries never tire of playing-- Look to both China and the U.S. to magnify benefits.
That said, the timing the Philippines chose to toss out the South China Sea proposal is just to keep pace with the U.S. Pacific-Asian strategies. This serves as a reminder that in 1998, immediately after it signed troops’ visiting agreement with the U.S., the Philippines took occupation of the Huangyan Island, the only island surfacing from water among the Zhongsha Isalnds; When a military drill pact was signed in 2002 with the U.S., the Philippines hurriedly moved its so-called City Of Cara Rock to the Nansha Islands.
Now that Obama is scheduled to appear at the ASEAN Summit, the Philippines will embrace the “golden chance” to get back at China, again churning up the South China Sea.
Regardless, if the Philippines insists the ASEAN Summit should be “a chance” to vociferously spell out its intention, it would miscalculate the reality as it is. Any discerning observers would say the move to involve the U.S. in the regional disputes is no wise choice, as it would probably complicate the situation and put sand in the wheels of unraveling the issue.
November 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
us is afraid of China. And is hoping that it can use these small vassal states to produce a facade that there is some kind of coalition. The truth is, China could wipe out the entirety of these nations. And the us would be to afraid to commit.
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November 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
None of these countries are nuclear powers. They would be driven off the map in the first round.
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November 16th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Conventionally they were also very weak. Philippines has no navy. Japan only has 8 destroyers. SK probably has 2. Australia has zero.
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November 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
You're all talk and can't even invade Taiwan next to your backyard. If they're all weak then why not get them all? Because China has not capable to attack without using nuclear missiles. But your afraid to use it also! hahaha! because all your companies will not get any orders also! hahahaha. Example is Nantong. No more order of ships and ship building has crashed. Companies file banruptcy! Hahaha. china is full of crap also. not all is good! Afraid of being public enemy No1 ha?
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November 16th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Taiwan has never attacked China. The last battle between China and Taiwan, China had the Dachen Archipelago confiscated from them.
The most recent threat was for calls of independence. But now Chen Shui Bian has been put in jail for a 20 yr prison sentence.
Just very recently, North Korea had sunk a South Korean warship. But no similar military response was ever made.
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November 16th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Public enemy number one my ass. No one intends to seriously confront China in the Pacific. us can bribe countries to make nominal actions, but China continues to be their largest trading partner.
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November 16th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
China is the world's largest shipbuilder. Its also the worlds largest economy period. If there were any pain in China. And there really isnt. It would have to be even worst outside of China.
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November 16th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
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November 16th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Nantong is crashing! The ship builders have filed for bankruptcy.
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November 16th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Those are some tough words from a Manny Pacquiao fan, Sec. Clinton. I guess the US will truly protect the Philippines in case China invades.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=8273436&c=ASI&s=SEA
Hmmm......Why are they in the USS Fitzgerald? I guess to send home a message to anyone that US is alive and ready to kick some ass just like Manny.
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November 16th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
"Date January 19, 1974
Location Paracel Islands
Result
Chinese victory
People's Republic of China gaining total control over Paracel Islands
Belligerents
Naval Ensign of the People's Republic of China.svg People's Liberation Army Navy Flag of South Vietnam.svg Republic of Vietnam Navy"
You are wasting your time. South Vietnam was an american ally. Defended them from North Vietnamese attack. But when their naval vessels had entered a battle with the Chinese. The SV navy was left to sink.
China could do what they want with the filippinos. us would just have to watch.
Nantong is like one shipbuilder.
"Shipbuilding output totaled 51.01 million DWT from January to September, representing an increase of 18.3 percent from the previous year. The DWT of completed ships for exports stood at 43.05 million, or 84.4 percent of China's total output, according to the NDRC".
Orders have dropped. But total output has still seen a substantial increase from the previous year.
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November 16th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
There is no political will for any of the Asian countries to go to war with each other. But small countries like Philippine is willing to use external influence like the U.S to test China's bottom line. If they gone too far, then they'll back off. Vice versa for China using her might on these small countries.
The U.S who wants to create a win-win situation for itself, constantly use this delicate situation to stir up animosities between Asian countries and create this illusion that only the U.S can bring peace and harmony. There is no way for U.S to stop the Brits, French and the Germans to create the EU to compete with U.S, but there are plenty of ways to disrupt a coherent Asian community from ever forming.
In the late 90s, Hong Kong was the only free-market to avoid the Asian economic crisis thx to the strong backing of China. Now days, China has deeper tie with all of Asian countries surpassing the U.S. While the U.S and entire West struggles to turn around their free failing society. Asia is getting a free ride with a strong Chinese economy on their back. Countries like Philippine, Vietnam and all way to Brazil have been avoiding collapses of their economy because of hungry Chinese demand for their exports. Western influence in Asian politics will keep diminishing and in a decade or more, the U.S telling what to do to Asian countries will be nothing but a joke.
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November 19th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Japan arrest of a Chinese fishing captain within the 12-nautical-mile territorial sea surrounding the Diaoyu Islands has again inflamed relations between the two great East Asian powers.
China claim to the Diaoyu Islands is based on the "discovery" of unclaimed territory and derives from a range of Chinese governmental contacts and references going back to 1372.
Japan claim is also based on the "discovery" of supposedly unclaimed territory, despite the fact that official Japanese documents, several of which were unearthed by Taiwan scholar Han-yi Shaw, demonstrate that the Japanese government was well aware of China historic claim when it began to take an interest in the islets in 1885.
During the subsequent decade, contrary to the assertions now made by Japan, its officials not only failed to complete surveys of the islets necessary to confirm their alleged unclaimed status, but also recognised that the matter "would need to involve negotiations with Qing China".
To avoid China suspicion, Japan chose to conceal its intention to occupy the islets "until a more appropriate time". That time came in January 1895, when Japan by then on its way to defeating China in their 1894 war, adopted a Cabinet decision that the islets were Japanese territory. Yet even that Cabinet decision was not made public until after the second world war.
Moreover, if the US were to become an impartial mediator, it would have to note that Japan claim to sovereignty over the islets is based on a distorted version of late 19th century history that does not pass the international smell test.
It is time for Japan to reassess its views on the international law of the sea. Those of its views that are plainly irresponsible only discredit others that deserve serious consideration.
Perhaps most insulting to the world community is its claim that the rock called Okinotorishima that constitutes Japan southernmost "land", a reef system with land at high tide no larger than a king-sized bed, is entitled to an EEZ and continental shelf.
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December 6th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
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December 6th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Hu just said.......Prepare for combat!
Let us see who will fire the first salvo.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/20435/chinas-hu-urges-navy-to-prepare-for-combat
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December 6th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Ala Lord of the Rings! Prepare for battle! the orks (Chinese) are coming!
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December 7th, 2011 at 1:43 am
The typical James Kamplian red neck wanna be is having an orgasm over trivial matters. O my, you Filipino low lives are truly scared over anything and everything.
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December 7th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Sure wont be phillipines or the us. China would beat the crap out of you two.
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December 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
japan's number one in Asia, brightest in asia, japan invaded the philippines time comes again, I would forbid Lupang Hinirang in sing and kaboom ... LOL , Just a decent KIMIGAYO sung all over the Philippines and in the world
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December 7th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
@ Monkey, named James Kampilan, you're a loser who exactly Gorgon monkeys, all manure odors Philippine LOL....LOL...LOL.....
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December 7th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
@ James kampilan was given a banana, or not? if so, these days are so fussy, what should be in sewing your mouth that smell it, already knew you were a monkey, uuuhhh still want to call a human being again, where appropriate also where the spirit of monkey. LOL.............
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December 7th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Chinese orks are coming! brain monkey eaters! hahahaha! SamS.ako madamosiya. you guys are a bunch of Chinese racist! Now your true colors are showing. Yeah go ahead nuke everybody. hahahha!
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December 8th, 2011 at 5:07 am
rofl, the racist come here everyday to bash China and that's you James Kampilan. Don't you regret you weren't born in white skin. I bet you are ashamed of yourself from tip-to-toe. "we are too weak and wait for my white masters to save me" I hear that everyday from shameful red neck wanna be Philippines like you. Your white-wanna-be President hosted this gigantic naval ceremony just to welcome a half century old hand-me-down garbage ship from U.S coast guard? Your white master Uncle Sam isn't really that generous isn't he. Apparently if Japanese didn't leave, you be the first one to lick their ass and kowtowing to their feet, wishing you were born a Jap. It's ok buddy. You won't have a problem be a lapdog of China in the future. That's what your entire race is accustomed to.
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December 8th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@ James Kampilan monkeys from the Philippines, be careful my friend, keep your brain not to be eaten by Ork china, so you're lucky to have friends like me, because Japanese people do not eat monkey brains, LOL ....., only one desire is to master the Japanese re-Filipino and exterminate inferior races such as the Philippines, at least we should re-colonize and conquer the Philippines as a colony of Japan
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December 8th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
only one longing for us as a generation of young Japanese, Japanese imperial glory back to his old, who controlled many colonies ranging from korea, china, Taiwan, Indochina, the Philippines and Southeast Asia
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December 9th, 2011 at 5:33 am
List of benefits Americans have given the Phillipines
1) Colonising the Philippines for 100 years and enslaving the Filipinos
2) Sending sex tourists to Philippines to spread the Aids virus to Filipinos
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December 10th, 2011 at 12:29 am
only one longing for us as a generation of young Japanese, Japanese imperial glory back to his old, who controlled many colonies ranging from korea, china, Taiwan, Indochina, the Philippines and Southeast Asia.
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December 11th, 2011 at 12:06 am
@James Kampilan from philippines
hi ..... James Kampilan you're monkeys, why are you hiding, you know you were a monkey, once again you were MONKEY, monkey who came from the philippines and named is James kampilan, James kampilan mind you, you are MONKEY .. LOL it's really , ha .. ha .. ha .. ha .. ha .. 100x
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December 11th, 2011 at 5:21 am
james and george will have shown to be racist-in-disguise . they're propagating chnese demonization. george inadvertently exposed the intensified military encirclement and orchestrating of incedences, along w/ fear monngering as in the 'china threat' , those chinese poachers must be punish, the actions were taken by themselves and weren't by orders from their gov.
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December 13th, 2011 at 8:43 am
it is ok, usa is giving toy ships to pinoyland... when china is ready, i can promise u that pinoyland will be trashed hard.
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December 15th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
US will win because they are much more experienced in warfare.
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December 16th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Not likely. us has never fought a major power like China nor having fought a modern war with modern weapons.
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December 16th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Tienfei,
With the current administration I would have to agaree. Every country in the World looks at the US as weak and singel minded.
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December 19th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I think all Asian countries have something they prefer left hidden under the linen. I just dont understand why some countries like Phillipines would shamelessly flaunt something so embarrassing and become the laughing stock of the world. Face it guys, you guys dont have the Pacific President. Why dont you learn from your neighbours, even Japan and stop making a comedy of yourself and your allies? Hope you can one day open your ears to what everyone else thinks rather than just what you think of yourselves.
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April 21st, 2012 at 8:27 am
Even you conquer us destroy us kill us fuck us dump all your shit to us ..REMEMBER for every thing you do is like a double edge dagger that will kill you too ..
let see who's weak ..... and let see who'll endured it .. Hope GFYS A-H
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