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2011-12-27 (China Military News cited from Xinhuanet and by Doug Bandow) -- Washington uses the "China threat" as an excuse to maintain excessive military spending so it can continue its hegemony.
The confused policy of "congagement" - mixing containment and engagement - has increasingly characterized the US approach to China. Americans want the benefit of trade and support for international initiatives, but fear a wealthier and more assertive Beijing pursuing its own interests. The result is more than the usual incoherence from Washington.
Disagreements among otherwise friendly states are not uncommon - just look at the United States and European countries. However, the trans-Atlantic relationship is rooted in cooperation. There is no military competition, no troop deployments linked to European foreign policy, no Pentagon reports on Europe's threatening military.
Washington's view of China's security policy and military developments is very different. The Department of Defense publishes an annual report on the Chinese military, the very existence of which implies that China is a potential threat. And the report is casually waved as evidence of the need for the US to maintain its extraordinary military outlays - roughly as much as the rest of the world combined.
PLA Army's Newest Third Generation Type 99A2 MBT, recently unleashed on Chinese Internet
Of course, US policymakers spend much effort denying the obvious, that the US is preparing for potential war with China. But such assurances cannot be taken seriously, as Sun Zhe of Tsinghua University says, "If you say [US aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines] are only targeting the DPRK, nobody will believe it." Of course, conflict is not Washington's objective. The hope is that the US military power will continue to overawe Beijing. However, that means US administrations are devoting much effort and resources to preserving American military superiority and limiting potential Chinese activity.
That's a plausible strategy for a nation with a vast technological and economic edge. But Washington is attempting to maintain a de facto empire on borrowed money while its creditors are at its door. With a 15 trillion U.S. dollars national debt and roughly 200 trillion U.S. dollars in other obligations and unfunded liabilities, the US government will find it impossible to continue playing global policeman.
The bigger problem, however, is the reaction that Washington's policy causes in Beijing. What the US views as selflessly defending friends and maintaining the global commons, the Chinese view as selfishly promoting US interests and threatening their homeland. The obvious response, a military build-up, is precisely what is detailed in the Pentagon report, the Annual Report to Congress: Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of China 2011.
Documented is a slowly changing balance of power. For instance, the Pentagon concluded that, "China's modernized military could be put to use in ways that increase China's ability to gain diplomatic advantage or resolve disputes in its favor." This is undoubtedly true. But so what? Washington uses its dominant military in precisely this way virtually every week, if not more often.
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December 27th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
What a POS tank,One Abraham's would destroy 10 of them....look's like China isn't good at stealing tank blue prints lol Even though they tried to make it look like a cross between a t90 and an M1...Vote to dislike my post here----> ..!.. Please don't reply if your engrish sucks
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December 27th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Hopefully one day soon,we will be able to test my theory! Bunch of haters on this lame ass site,can't handle the truth!
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December 27th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
I'm about to have a lot of likes
BTW:You trolled me loser ..!..
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December 27th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Learn English before you try to type it please. You're making yourself,look like a fool!
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December 29th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
The USA would be better off in spending the money on their economy. This will not just benefit the USA but also the world.
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December 30th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Sam,we aren't in Afghanastan for the oil...we got attcked from an extreme jihad loving fanatic,remember dunbass?! We don't need their oil,we have more in ND then their whole country! Unlike China,who will let whatever dictator kill their people and just stand by and watch,just as long as they get their oil! FUCK CHINA!
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December 31st, 2011 at 6:01 pm
@ Sams you shithead!! You state: "Collectively, you been destroying every corner of the world for the past 2 centuries". What utter crap you continiously write. Where has the US destroyed every corner of the world for the past 200 years. Elaborate my friend. Oh thats right they havnt as you state but by reading your previous posts your prone to massive exaggeration so dont take your comments seriously.
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January 1st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Don't let SamS ignorance get to you smash,its not his fault that his goverment restricts the truth from him! Hes only told lies that their media feeds him! It must suck being brainwashed on a daily basis.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 1:38 pm
Bring it on sam,I'll buy you a plane ticket so you can try to wipe me out! Just a little pussy talking big behind his pc....you would wimper like a little bitch if you met me! Just because I live in America,thats means I'm white? Your a funny kid!
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January 2nd, 2012 at 1:41 pm
Just googled how many of its own people that China has slaughtered for just having an opinion....still loading,get back to you when its done...Looks like it will be a while. Be patient.
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January 3rd, 2012 at 12:42 pm
I actually have better things to do then sit on this site all day long like you sam. If the west is so bad,why don't you give up all of the things we have invented and stop living like the west. Just another hypocrite that hates everything the US stands,but live like one on a daily basis.
Your facts are not my facts so piss off!
BTW: The biggest genocide happens in Africa on a daily basis...I'm sure its the west fault though lol
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January 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm
China sounds like a great place to live,this took me 5 seconds to find...Your goverment rules.....NOT.....Didn't have time to search the other 900 million websites....I'll get back to you,once I have time from the real world.
•No one really knows what the law is in China. The only law which seems to be enforced is when a citizen is charged with “subversion of state power” for…speaking… or…being at the wrong place or the wrong time.
•The MEDIA is run by the government (with only a few exceptions)… .
•Caps on freedom of speech include: you can suggest that territories which the governing party claims (like Tibet and Taiwan) should be independent; criticizing the ruling Communist party; mentioning democracy in a good light; intense monitoring of publications and internet posts- with severe punishments.
•Speaking of Internet, China got Yahoo, Google, and MSN to ban certain words to come up in search engines…such as “DEMOCRACY”. Skype filters such words as well. Some internet sites are totally blocked.
•Want to apply for a protest permit at a particular park? Don’t be surprised if you get sentenced to “re-education through labor” instead of getting your permit.
•Movement is restricted by the bureaucracy. If you have a “rural” working permit, don’t be seen trying to work in a “urban” district. This creates a second class citizen scenario. Peasants are non-persons in urban areas.
•Repressive Chinese factories- whatever the boss says goes. Period. He (never a she) sets your hours, pay, and discipline. Caught talking to a girl? No pay for a month.
•Communist party members must officially be atheists. All religions must register with the government. Religious leaders get chosen. Content gets censored. No living Buddha may be reincarnated without government approval. There is a “Pachen Lama”- a fake monk leader- who serves as the mouthpiece for Red China.
•There is no due process. The police round people up and imprison protesters or enemies of the state. IF there is a trial, many judges are corrupt, paid off, or afraid. Forced labor, torture, and forced confessions exist.
•“For a prosperous, powerful nation and a happy family, please use birth planning.” There is a ONE-CHILD policy. How do they enforce it? Jail-time, forced abortions, and sterilization, of course. Some say even killing. This policy is somewhat relaxed in certain urban areas.
•CRIMES PUNISHABLE BY DEATH: Tax fraud and 60+ more.
•Ethic minorities living in China? They are discriminated against and are “non-persons” even though the”Chinese constitution” says “All nationalities in the People’s Republic of China are equal”.
•Workers can’t form their own unions, they can just join State-run unions.
•Postal mail and e-mails are sometimes…delayed. Internet chat rooms? Blogs? Watched.
•North Korean refugees? They wind up as forced prostitutes.
•Farmers have their land seized.
•Citizens have their apartments demolished.
•Defense lawyers are monitored, and some are beaten.
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January 4th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I didnt even search for anything yet,I was just mocking you in my previous post. Your just too stupid to figure that out! Like I said before,when I have time,I will post more,get a life already.
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January 4th, 2012 at 11:45 am
BTW:Don't bunch America together with europe by calling us the west as a whole. We are nothing like those cowards!
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January 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
We never conquered Africa dummy! We do give them the most aid,than any other country in the world though,just like most of the other countries that don't deserve it,like China. Yes China still receives foreign aid,can you believe that,The second largest economy gets foreign aid,now thats a joke.
China spent tens of billions of dollars on a dazzling 2008 Olympics. It has sent astronauts into space. It recently became the world's second largest economy. Yet it gets more than $2.5 billion a year in foreign government aid - and taxpayers and lawmakers in donor countries are increasingly asking why.
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January 4th, 2012 at 11:59 am
Not all European countries are cawards,my bad
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January 4th, 2012 at 12:31 pm
America may be the great conquerers of all time (I beg to differ)but China wins in a landslide for the killing of its own people by a landslide. Here is a short summary of the genocide! This is such a short period in China's history. I could amagine if I wen't back hundreds or thousands of years.
People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975): 40 000 000 [make link]
•Agence France Press (25 Sept. 1999) citing at length from Courtois, Stephane, Le Livre Noir du Communism: ◦Rural purges, 1946-49: 2-5M deaths
◦Urban purges, 1950-57: 1M
◦Great Leap Forward: 20-43M
◦Cultural Revolution: 2-7M
◦Labor Camps: 20M
◦Tibet: 0.6-1.2M
◦TOTAL: 44.5 to 72M
•Jasper Becker, Hungry Ghosts : Mao's Secret Famine (1996) ◦Estimates of the death toll from the Great Leap Forward, 1959-61: ■Judith Banister, China's Changing Population (1984): 30M excess deaths (acc2 Becker: "the most reliable estimate we have")
■Wang Weizhi, Contemporary Chinese Population (1988): 19.5M deaths
■Jin Hui (1993): 40M population loss due to "abnormal deaths and reduced births"
■Chen Yizi of the System Reform Inst.: 43-46M deaths
•Brzezinski: ◦Forcible collectivization: 27 million peasants
◦Cultural Revolution: 1-2 million
◦TOTAL: 29 million deaths under Mao
•Daniel Chirot: ◦Land reform, 1949-56 ■According to Zhou Enlai: 830,000
■According to Mao Zedong: 2-3M
◦Great Leap Forward: 20-40 million deaths.
◦Cultural Revolution: 1-20 million
•Jung Chang, Mao: the Unknown Story (2005) ◦Suppression of Counterrevolutionaries, 1950-51: 3M by execution, mob or suicide
◦Three-Anti Campaign, 1952-53: 200,000-300,000 suicides
◦Great Leap Forward, 1958-61: 38M of starvation and overwork
◦Cultural Revolution, 1966-76: > 3M died violent deaths
◦Laogai camp deaths, 1949-76: 27M
◦TOTAL under Mao: 70M
•Dictionary of 20C World History: around a half million died in Cultural Rev.
•Eckhardt: ◦Govt executes landlords (1950-51): 1,000,000
◦Cultural Revolution (1967-68): 50,000
•Gilbert: ◦1958-61 Famine: 30 million deaths.
•Kurt Glaser and Stephan Possony, Victims of Politics (1979): ◦They estimate the body count under Mao to be 38,000,000 to 67,000,000.
◦Cited by G & P: ■Walker Report (see below): 44.3M to 63.8M deaths.
■The Government Information Office of Taiwan (18 Sept. 1970): 37M deaths in the PRC.
■A Radio Moscow report (7 Apr. 1969): 26.4M people had been exterminated in China.
■(NOTE: Obviously the Soviets and Taiwanese would, as enemies, be strongly motivated to exaggerate.)
•Guinness Book of World Records: ◦Although nowadays they don't come right out and declare Mao to be the Top Dog in the Mass Killings category, earlier editions (such as 1978) did, and they cited sources which are similar, but not identical, to the Glaser & Possony sources: ■On 7 Apr. 1969 the Soviet government radio reported that 26,300,000 people were killed in China, 1949-65.
■In April 1971 the cabinet of the government of Taiwan reported 39,940,000 deaths for the years 1949-69.
■The Walker Report (see below): between 32,2500,000 and 61,700,000.
•Harff and Gurr: ◦KMT cadre, rich peasants, landlords (1950-51): 800,000-3,000,000
◦Cultural Revolution (1966-75): 400,000-850,000
•John Heidenrich, How to Prevent Genocide: A Guide for Policymakers, Scholars, and the Concerned Citizen: 27M death toll, incl. 2M in Cultural Revolution
•Paul Johnson doesn't give an overall total, but he gives estimates for the principle individual mass dyings of the Mao years: ◦Land reform, first years of PRC: at least 2 million people perished.
◦Great Leap Forward: "how many millions died ... is a matter of conjecture."
◦Cultural Revolution: 400,000, calling the 3 Feb. 1979 estimate by Agence France Presse, "The most widely respected figure".
•Meisner, Maurice, Mao's China and After (1977, 1999), doesn't give an overall total either, but he does give estimates for the three principle mass dyings of the Mao years: ◦Terror against the counterrevolutionaries: 2 million people executed during the first three years of the PRC.
◦Great Leap Forward: 15-30 million famine-related deaths.
◦Cultural Revolution: 400,000, citing a 1979 estimate by Agence France Presse.
•R. J. Rummel: ◦Estimate: ■Democide: 34,361,000 (1949-75) ■The principle episodes being... ■All movements (1949-58): 11,813,000 ■incl. Land Reform (1949-53): 4,500,000
■Cult. Rev. (1964-75): 1,613,000
■Forced Labor (1949-75): 15,000,000
■Great Leap Forward (1959-63): 5,680,000 democides
■War: 3,399,000
■Famine: 34,500,000 ■Great Leap Forward: 27M famine deaths
■TOTAL: 72,260,000
◦Cited in Rummel: ■Li, Cheng-Chung (Republic of China, 1979): 78.86M direct/indirect deaths.
■World Anti-Communist League, True Facts of Maoist Tyranny (1971): 64.5M
■Glaser & Possony: 38 to 67M (see above)
■Walker Report, 1971 (see below): 31.75M to 58.5M casualties of Communism (excluding Korean War).
■Current Death Toll of International Communism (1979): 39.9M
■Stephen R. Shalom (1984), Center for Asian Studies, Deaths in China Due To Communism: 3M to 4M death toll, excluding famine.
•Walker, Robert L., The Human Cost of Communism in China (1971, report to the US Senate Committee of the Judiciary) "Casualties to Communism" (deaths): ◦1st Civil War (1927-36): .25-.5M
◦Fighting during Sino-Japanese War (1937-45): 50,000
◦2nd Civil War (1945-49): 1.25M
◦Land Reform prior to Liberation: 0.5-1.0M
◦Political liquidation campaigns: 15-30M
◦Korean War: 0.5-1.234M
◦Great Leap Forward: 1-2M
◦Struggle with minorities: 0.5-1.0M
◦Cultural Revolution: .25-.5M
◦Deaths in labor camps: 15-25M
◦TOTAL: 34.3M to 63.784M
◦TOTAL FOR PRC: 32M to 59.5M
•July 17, 1994, Washington Post (Great Leap Forward 1959-61) ◦Shanghai University journal, Society: > 40 million
◦Cong Jin: 40 million
◦Chen Yizi: 43 million in the famine. 80 million total as a result of Mao's policies.
•Weekly Standard, 29 Sept. 1997, "The Laogai Archipelago" by D. Aikman: ◦Between 1949 and 1997, 50M prisoners passed through the labor camps, and 15,000,000 died (citing Harry Wu)
•WHPSI: 1,633,319 political executions and 25,961 deaths from political violence, 1948-77. TOTAL: 1,659,280
•Analysis: If we line up the 14 sources which claim to be complete, the median falls in the 45.75 to 52.5 million range, so you probably can't go wrong picking a final number from this neighborhood. Depending on how you want to count some of the incomplete estimates (such as Becker and Meisner) and whether to count a source twice (or thrice, as with Walker) if it's referenced by two different authorities, you can slide the median up and down the scale by many millions. Keep in mind, however, that official Chinese records are hidden from scrutiny, so most of these numbers are pure guesses. It's pointless to get attached to any one of them, because the real number could easily be half or twice any number here.
•Perhaps a better way of estimating would be to add up the individual components. The medians here are: ◦Purges, etc. during the first few years: 2M (10 estimates)
◦Great Leap Forward: 31-33M (14 estimates)
◦Cultural Revolution: 1M (13 estimates)
◦Ethnic Minorities, primarily Tibetans: 750-900T (8 estimates, see below)
◦Labor Camps: 20M (5 estimates)
◦This produces a total of some 54,750,000 to 56,900,000 deaths. The weak link in this calculation is in the Labor Camp numbers for which we only have 5 estimates.
•Notice that many early body counts (such as Walker) completely miss the famine during the Great Leap Forward, which was largely unknown in the west until around 1980. There are two contradictory ways to assess those early estimates which ignore the famine: 1."If these are the numbers that they came up with without the famine, imagine how high the true number will be once you add the famine deaths."
2."Can we trust any of these numbers? After all, if they missed such a huge famine, they can't have known very much about what was going on inside China."
•... so this line of reasoning will get us nowhere. In fact, the median of the 7 estimate that predate 1980 is 45.7M, which is almost the same as the median of the 7 estimates that post-date 1980 -- 58M. (At this scale, a 12M difference counts as "almost the same".)
Tibet (1950 et seq.): 600 000
•Chinese occupation. (For the most part, it's already been included in the numbers above.) ◦Free Tibet Campaign [http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact1.html] ■Tibetans killed by the Chinese since 1950: 1,200,000
■Died in prisons and labour camps between 1950 and 1984: up to 260,000
■1959 Uprising: 430,000 died ■K. in Reprisals: 87,000
◦Our Times: 1,200,000
◦Courtois: 600,000 - 1,200,000
◦Walker, Robert: 500,000-1,000,000 (all ethnic minorities)
◦Rummel: 375,000 democides inflicted on etnic minorities ■... incl 150,000 Tibetans
◦Margolin, "China" in Courtois, Black Book of Communism, p. 546
■The population of Tibet plunged from 2.8 million in 1953 to 2.5 million in 1964 [ a loss of 300,000]
◦Porter: 100,000 to 150,000.
◦Eckhardt: ■1950-51 War: 2,000 civ.
■ 1956-59 Revolt: 60,000 civ. + 40,000 mil. = 100,000
◦Harff and Gurr: 65,000 Tibetan nationalists, landowners, Buddhists killed, 1959
◦Small & Singer say that China lost 40,000 soldiers in Tibet between 1956 and '59
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January 4th, 2012 at 12:33 pm
You live in America and yet you still are stupid lol those are loans,not aid genius.
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January 4th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
The killing of the American Indians was a terrible thing,I for one would rather have died then take part in the slaughter of them.Most Americans would probably agree with me on this. Americans from that period of time are not the same as my generation,so there is no comparison. We have a very short history when it comes to other nations,so we are are still learning from our mistakes, from generation to generation,at least most of us try.
I am glad to see some of the Chineese people being pulled out of poverty in a long history of dispare,there is much more work to be done,hopefully one day,most of the population will have a taste,,but that will never happen with the communist party in place.
Let me ask you a question Sam,do you like have your next leader put in place for you or not being able to have a voice on certain laws in place?
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January 4th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I have to stop typing when I'm tired,I make too many mistakes lol
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January 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Oh comon. Thats just propaganda. In reality, the population of China in 1949 was around 400 million. By the time Mao had finished his career. The Chinese population was over 1 billion. In contrast, the entire north american continent was wiped out of Native Americans. It was the single biggest genocide in history. Its not a statistical fraud. Anyone with eyes and ears knows that this was the single biggest race war and genocide in the history of the world.
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January 5th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Blah,Blah,Blah....The truth hurts,doesn't it?
America has been in decline many times in its history,what makes you think we will crumble now? The only reason China's economy is doing good,is because of Americans.Those days will end soon,we are wising up,not buying your cheaply,toxic made crap as much!
Maybe if your government would give its people more freedom,instead of controlling everything they do,they could invent their own technology instead of stealing ours!If they did that,they would have conquered the world,a long time ago. But,with the dumbest 10% controlling everything,that will never happen!
Your just mad cause 300 million people would kick your ass,get over it,it will be like that forever!
Your little rise won't last,other countries are getting sick of China's shit and will unite to stop your raping of the world,buy not buying your goods,I mean the stuff you steal on a daily basis and call your own.
Keep in mind,a lot of the Chinese people hate their government and will rise up stronger and stronger just like in the middle east! Its inevitable,keep suppressing your people and they will fight back! Unfortunately,the goverment will just kill millions more and probably blame it on us lol
It was fun hanging out here making new friends like sam,hugo,Tiefei...etc But I'm bored here now,not sure what the site will do,without its #1 poster,but it might survive,like China lol
Before I go,Tienfei,sam and a few others. Are you going to college in the US pretending to be a chinese civilians,when you are really military personnel spying on us? Yes we know all about that trick,but the trick is really on you,thanks for the money, Just so you know,you are being tracked,it might even be your closes friend/comrad you have here...The jokes on you
I know you will all miss me,it was fun,bye
USA,USA,USA!!!
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January 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
HAHA. You are wasting time. I think we have discussed these points before. us doesnt have any money. It has to take 200 billion dollar loans from China annually to even afford to purchase Chinese goods. Trade between China and the us is irrelevant. China could loan 200 billion dollars per annual to anyone including themselves in order to continue producing goods.
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January 6th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
No Sam, Pyro and my truthful facts hurt, its ok buddy. Ill go back to your original post where you state "Collectively, you (US)been destroying every corner of the world for the past 2 centuries" Nothing youve posted has expalined this exaggeration. You speak utter lies. You then decide to include Europe which is not the US in your fabricated post. Sams pretending to argue intelligently, bursted your little bubble again? after i pointed out the truth about you?
haha SamsS your a fool and a stooge to your CCP masters. Who gives a shit if were white, black, brown whatever... you have a complex my friend.
China ignores its own history to keep her skeletons safely in her closet. Try finding the truth in China about the Korean war, Great Leap forward, Cultural revolution,etc etc etc, you will find nothing as these have become subjects of China's amnesia to the truth to avoid political embarrassment.
Why wont they allow their own citzens to see/read the truth?? Because there embarrassed. Try ordering a book in China from overseas about Tiananmen Square, Korean war, Great Leap forward, Cultural revolution etc etc. You cant as Chinese customs will rip out the pages which dont conform to China history amnesia. After 30 years China's archives are supposed to be opened up to the public but the Chinese govt withholds the truth from its own people. How can you trust China, you cant!!. China lies and brainwashes its own people with lies and distortions. Now there is some facts for you to dwell on idiot!!
If China wants international prestige then China will need to confront these fears. Im glad i live in the west would have it no other way at least i can source the truth and not offical govt/CCP lies and propaganda which you happily lap up, fool. Can the Chinese ppl vote, nope, do the Chinese ppl have freedon of expression, nope, can the Chinese access the truth, nope. Poor people. I have many Chinese friends who live in the west and the majority have stated they hate the CCP and want their children to be raised in the west due to the issues i raised above.
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January 6th, 2012 at 9:12 pm
Tienfei: We have talked about this 1 poll before. When there is only one system of govt and party the poll is almost moot point. The reason Wen Jiabao receive a positive rating is because he is perceived as cuddly teddy bear, China's soft side to the world solely due to economics of course.
How about you answer the rest of my post regarding lack of freedon of speech, lack of human rights, lack of ability to protest without been thrown in a gulag etc which you conveniently choose to ignore.
Also, I think you mean China not the US when you state "you face harassment and destruction of personal property for having opposing views. You also get censored and are fed misinformation" then in China thrown in Chinese prison. The harassment is far more prevalent in China for having opposing views as you know not living in China.
The US system of law and order is more fair, robust and balanced than that of the Chinese system. Everyone knows that apart from you propaganda swallowing Communists.
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January 6th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
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January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
Tienfei: Any poll can be distorted/manipulated depending on the questions you ask idiot. You could ask:
Do you have a positive negative view of China's political system?
Do you have a positive negative view of China's lack of freedom of speech?
Then ask,
Do you have a positve negative view of China's Premier Wen Jiabao?
Im sure you wouldnt have the same %
Nearly fell off my chair when you stated "All I ever state is the truth. I should never have to be harassed for doing that. Most people like you have no idea what you are talking about. Supporting agendas that are on the wrong side of justice. People like you would deserve the trash that you get."
Well if you beleive you write the truth then comment (as ive previously asked) regarding "lack of freedon of speech, lack of human rights, lack of ability to protest without been thrown in a gulag" which AGAIN you conveniently choose to ignore. Truth my ass.
Most people like me, haha you have no idea and couldnt be far more from the truth. Well im not white trash, im not a white supremacist, sorry for harassing you (toughen the fuck up) and all I ever state is the truth also. And BTW I dont receive any trash only from you and your commie loving friends. But its all ok Tienfei i can handle it!!! hahaha
Keep your perception of the truth and trash comin!!
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January 6th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
@smash
Rofl, it's obvious your anti-China syndrome has gone out of control while pretending to be rational. Whenever a country has mounting internal problems, we have the likes of you coming out calling for an external "enemy" to blame on. Save your hypocritical bullshit.
Yes, you are glad you live in the West with your McDonalds, and Mercedes at the rest of the world's expense. For your national interests, you have intentionally kept countries and continents in poverty and in countless dictator in power to maintain this old world order hegemony because the rise of the major developing countries means competition, and the end of your monopoly on natural resource and cutting edge technology.
Then comes all these dictators whom you supported, but then rebelled against you. And comes the the fight for "democracies and freedom". This is the never ending cycle of truth none of you China bashers can handle and of course even gladly in favor of.
The U.S and the West are most of world's dictator's life support. This is the truth. 2 billion a year for 30 years of Hosni Mubarak, that hurt your pride? Your lapdog Saddam did ur bidding in countering Iran, but wanted Kuwait for himself. How dare your lapdog went rogue!!!! That hurt your bride?? You buy up their natural resources and leaving them to their hell-holes as long as they protect your interests. China has began to do the same and only this you consider China as a threat.
It's obvious hypocrites like you and pyro are not even remotely qualified to criticize China. When all the suffering of the world is at the expense of your comfortable life to begin with.
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January 7th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Haha nice rant SamS, clutching at straws my friend. Your obvious anti US/West syndrome is a joke, even though you consume and lead a western lifestyle.
Ah and I see your eminently qualified to comment, SamS truth, the whole truth, nothing but the SamS truth from you, hehe. "Im pretending to be rational" rofl, i am buddy. Your a joke like your whole post.
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January 7th, 2012 at 12:39 am
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January 7th, 2012 at 1:25 am
Tienfei: Again you ignore my request to comment on lack of freedon of speech, lack of human rights, lack of ability to protest without been thrown in a gulag"
I'll add for you to comment on; lack of religious freedom? lack of proprty rights? lack of ability to source/recieve answer to historical facts? China's lack of concern for fellow human beings?
China is not morally superior to the United States, far from it.
I'll quote a poll for you this time;
"The lack of charitable spirit in China is supported by a poll released in April, 2011 by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. Based on polling data from Gallup, it shows China second from the bottom in a list of 40 countries ranked for "pro-social behavior": giving to charity, volunteering time and helping strangers.
Another poll;
"A survey conducted by China Youth Daily, a Communist Party newspaper, stated that 88% of respondents agreed that the increasing indifference among people was the real cause for the toddler's death. As for why 18 people passed by the girl, 71% of respondents thought they were afraid of bringing trouble on themselves"
Another example of lack of morals back in April, 2011;
"Photos have surfaced about another foreigner who helped a middle-aged woman who had been stabbed by her mentally ill son in Shanghai's Pudong airport in April. A video shows a man who appears to be in his 20s with a backpack squatting over the woman and trying to staunch the bleeding while others in the crowded international arrivals hall walk by or stare. The woman survived and afterward put out a call to thank the unidentified foreigner, but he was never identified"
Another example;
"A 5-year-old boy playing on a sidewalk was struck by a wooden beam that had fallen from a construction site in the city of Linyi in the eastern province of Shandong. His mother begged motorists and bystanders to help bring him to a hospital, but all refused — including the chengguan, low-level municipal police, who drove by and ignored her"
And another well known example;
"October 13th, 2011 at the Guangfo Hardware Market in Huangqi of Foshan. A van ran over a 2-year-old little girl twice in a small alley, a few minutes later a small truck again ran over her. Over the span of 7 minutes, over a dozen people passed by, and not one extended a helping hand. Finally, a garbage scavenger ayi [older woman] helped up the girl
This would never happen in 99% of countries, so China is not and ill repeat not morally superior to the United States. China treats her people like ants, to be subdued, moulded and squashed.
There you have it Tienfei, wonder how you'll spin this?
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January 7th, 2012 at 7:52 am
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January 7th, 2012 at 10:21 am
Pyro - Talking about killing its own people. Nothing tops this so far. The One-Child Policy has killed an estimated 400 million so far and counting.
Currently here are some disturbing news about how they treat their women.
Forced Abortion Statistics
China is the only country in the world where women commit suicide more than men.
In fact, the Beijing Suicide Research and Prevention Center reported in 2009 that the suicide rate for females was three times higher than for males.
Suicide is the #1 cause of death among Chinese rural women aged 15-34.
56% of the world’s female suicides occur in China, but only 20% of the world’s population lives in China.
500 women commit suicide in China each day.
Easy access to pesticides contributes to the prevalence of suicides among rural women.
Violence against women and girls, discrimination in education and employment, the traditional preference for male children, birth-limitation policies, and other societal factors contribute to the high female suicide rate.
Abortion Statistics in China
Chinese data show that 13 million abortions are performed each year, for an average rate of 35,000 abortions per day.
About 27.3% of women in their 20’s—about 27.3 million women—have had an abortion.
In 2000, more than half of all abortions in China were a result of prenatal sex selection.
One survey of 8,846 women showed that of those women who have had one abortion, 35.97% have another abortion shortly after the first one.
An average of 8 million women undergo abortions every year in China.
The abortion rate among women in China is 29.3%, which far exceeds the average level of other developed nations; in the population of 20-29 year-old young women, the abortion rate is 62%.
In Shanghai, Beijing and other large cities, the rate of repeat abortion is higher than 50%.
Regulations requiring women who violate family-planning policy to terminate their pregnancies still exist in the 25th, 42nd, and 22nd provisions of the Population and Family Control Regulation of Liaoning, Jilin, and Heilongjiang provinces, respectively. An additional 10 provinces--Fujian, Guizhou, Guangdong, Gansu, Jiangxi, Qinghai, Sichuan, Shanxi, Shaanxi, and Yunnan--require unspecified "remedial measures" to deal with unauthorized pregnancies.
While some researchers have suggested that Hepatitis is responsible for the high sex ratio, this is not supported by the evidence. Looking at the 2000 census data, if a second child is a male it will arrive, on average, 4 months later than a second born female. This delay in birth indicates that there is human intervention, abortions or infanticide, taking place before the birth of a male second child.
Read more: http://www.allgirlsallowed.org/category/topics/forced-abortion
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January 7th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
It's a lose,lose trying to get a point across to these brainwashed idiots,don't waste your time Smash! They are either fed only the bad things America does,or just turn a blind eye to the good things we do. You guys should try thinking outside the box sometimes,instead of having a one track mind...My bad,I wouldn't want you to get put in jail or shot for having an opinion.
Its funny cause you think the Chinese government cares about its people. I'm not as stupid to think that way about my government,its always about the all might dollar,no matter what country you live in. The only difference with us is,Most Americans own guns and wouldn't stand for the things your government does to its people on a daily basis.We would rise up and overthrow their asses in a heartbeat! Do you even know that there have been peaceful protest in China,that have been crushed by the police and whole towns cut off from the media this year? Probably not. The only time your government acts like it cares is when something is leaked to its people,then they make it look like they care.Or if too many people have a voice that they can't keep quit.
Until some of you aren't a 100% bias,when it comes to America,I may actually start reading your comments again. I never group together the Chinese people with their government,like most of you do when you criticize America! That proves you are the prejudice one Sam,not me....You have called me white so many times and that you would love to kill me....But I have never called you yellow or hated on you first! You started with me,not such a peaceful rise,now is it?
Pick and choose what to criticize in my post,you always do....My theory on turning a blind eye must be the rite choice....And you call me a hypocrite.
P.S. Pentagon reload,your link is broken.
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January 7th, 2012 at 2:14 pm
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January 7th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Sam,I said we had a voice when it came to certain laws being put into place,not wars. When Americans stay informed and have a voice,its for the people,by the people.
The first gulf war was a UN resolution to get Iraq out of Kuwait,which I'm sure China abstained from and definitely didn't get involved with. The second one,we were falsely led to believe their WMD's Not sure what you point is? I guess I was supposed to be misinformed or something?
I was all for the Afghan war! We are not in debt because of it. Not sure of your point once again?
The housing market has many factors,blaming one is just ignorance.
The so called elite,in all countries,control everything,is this new,maybe to you,but I have had technology for years,you must just be getting those facts.
The US does not control jobs in America like china does in your country,your facts are misconstrued.
The space race was great thing,how is that bad? You are comical lol If it wasn't for our space race,china wouldn't have made such fast progress if it wasn't for Russia and stealing our technology. Also,we had to learn by our mistakes going into space and figure out how to work around them,by ourselves! China already knows what mistakes not to make because of America and Russia!
Siding with a country that has our best interest,wow,thats unheard of....I wonder if this guy understand sarcasim? Probably not.
Franky said: "What you are effectively saying is let the crimes of Amerika be by gones but not those of others." I didn't say that at all,We live up to our mistakes when most of you don't even acknowledge that your country does anything wrong.
I never blindly agree with my government and tell the truth when I see something wrong,unlike you guys. You Blindly think your goverment does nothing wrong.
I was wrong,coming here daily is funnier then the funny page in the news paper.
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January 7th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Tiefei,I put my attention towards many issues. I have no respect for you,especially since I found out that you live in America and hate it so much. Why are you here then?If China is so great,go back there?I for one wouldn't live in a place that I hated. I answered your question,now answer mine for once. I'll give you credit for saying where you live though,the others try to hide it.
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January 8th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
Looks like 5 sentences to me,but who's counting? Is this grade school?
All I did was state a fact,then you attacked me....I would quote what you said,but most of your comments are hidden due to low ratings....Must suck to be so hated,I'm guessing you are in real life too
You should search for more unbiased information,instead of going to the same source. Maybe you would learn something new.
Have a nice day!
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January 8th, 2012 at 4:56 pm
I'll type in caps so maybe you can understand better?!
I DON'T (DO NOT) HATE CHINA. I HATE ITS GOVERMENT!!! G.O.V.E.R.M.E.N.T!!!!!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?!
OBVIOUSLY NOT!!!
Please stop judging me,since you obviously cannot understand what I'm saying.
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January 10th, 2012 at 1:39 am
Tienfei: no problem you support the CCP, your allowed and have a right to your view. We just have a difference of opinion. Good debate!!
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January 10th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
@ Pyro you were dumb and stupid, the nation's colonial America, the nation's sheep complainant, the nation's human rights violators number one, number one nation over Nazi racists, people who are full of discrimination against Asian nations, united nations has always despised the small countries, you spoke ill of the country rather than an ally that is no reason to push the Allies to buy American weapons, if not in that way how American weapons sold in the market, how can the behavior when the peace loving world, only the American nation that has always incited to always tensions and distrust between countries allied with not an ally, thus the old weapons were sold to the rest of world war two to three class allies who are American cash cow like the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, is to tehnologie modern weapons sold to second-class allies such as Japan, India , south korea, was for a very modern technology sold to first-class allies of one race with a nation that is united European nations, especially the English and Australia, our nation the Philippines, does not need American help, we do not want America back to Subic, because the army American moral depravity brought for the Philippines, notes: @ Pyro and the American people kiss my butt when I fart. LOL ..
@ Pyro & american people kumain ng aking poo lah
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January 11th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
I agree with you Ferdinand,you should defend your own country and we should stay out of your internal affairs....Good luck keeping China out of your territorial water's. They are on one of your islands as we speak,hows that going? Have they cut any cables on any of your ships lately?
"@ Pyro & American people eat my poo lah" <-------- Now thats funny lol
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January 11th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
Look at all them low ratings...Thats sad
I'm well loved
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January 11th, 2012 at 3:17 pm
america is trash..hehe
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April 20th, 2012 at 6:20 am
US will always lose a war with China, because US soldiers are too busy kissing each other and marrying dude to dude. lol, American soldiers are bunch of queers. hahaha
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